What would you say is the most broken powerup?

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What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby HeroLinik » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:29 pm

Powerups. They're a fundamental gameplay mechanic in Mario games, let alone SMBX. Various ones exist that allow for different things to happen, such as allowing you to take a hit, take off into the skies, or even throw hammers that can pretty much defeat many enemy NPCs.

As many powerups there are in SMBX, there's got to be some that are so good, that you'd probably think they're broken, even moreso to the point where sometimes you can just break levels wide open using one. While there are certain level-specfic broken powerups (such as the Super Leaf in an overworld level as you can just fly over most of it), there's got to be a powerup that is at least broken in many levels, as opposed to one specific level.

Out of all the powerups in the game, which would you say is the most broken, and why?
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby DrMekar » Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:47 pm

Obviously the Lakitu Shoe in my Opnion. It's like the Super Leaf, without the requirement of running first and it flies way longer.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby ShadowStarX » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:41 pm

Hammer Suit and Tanooki Suit are very strong but far from being broken if kept in mind by the designer just a bit.
Black Yoshi is overpowered but not ridiculously.
But yeah the Lakitu Shoe is straight up broken. Infinite flight with no momentum needed to be gained...
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby 8lue Storm » Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:57 pm

The Tanooki Suit allows you to clip through regular walls and floor and can easily avoid a long spike hazard through glitches.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Eclipsed » Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:31 am

In Order on average with powerups and only the lakitu shoe mount
Lakitu Shoe
Hammer Suit
Tanooki Suit (Note: At optimal play, this would be above hammer suit)
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby cato » Sat Dec 28, 2019 4:13 am

Super leaf when the level is just enemies spam with flatlands.
Ice flower when the level is either full of normally unkillable enemies or flatlands with lava.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Cedur » Sat Dec 28, 2019 6:40 am

I used to skip quite many levels with the lakitu shoe (say, I probably couldn't beat Ultimate Utopia without it). But still it's far from trivial because you must not get hit by anything at all.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Troopa Koopa321 » Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:41 pm

I’d say the hammer suit since it can kill nearly any enemy in the game. We seriously need a "nohammer" option on npcs to nerf this power up. It also ruins some bosses making then really easy to beat. The lakitu shoe in my opinion isn’t as overpowered since the hammer suit is more effective at destroying enemies.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Wed Jan 01, 2020 7:07 am

Troopa Koopa321 wrote:
Tue Dec 31, 2019 6:41 pm
I’d say the hammer suit since it can kill nearly any enemy in the game. We seriously need a "nohammer" option on npcs to nerf this power up. It also ruins some bosses making then really easy to beat. The lakitu shoe in my opinion isn’t as overpowered since the hammer suit is more effective at destroying enemies.
One can kill any any that a hammer can with a tanooki suit. The Hammer/Bomb Suit blocks fire while ducking, but the Tanooki Suit can clip any to any wall that has at least three blocks of headspace.

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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby GforGoomba » Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:30 am

Cedur wrote: I used to skip quite many levels with the lakitu shoe (say, I probably couldn't beat Ultimate Utopia without it). But still it's far from trivial because you must not get hit by anything at all.
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Obviously the Lakitu Shoe in my Opnion. It's like the Super Leaf, without the requirement of running first and it flies way longer.
Reminds me of a certain platformer game...
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby SDA - SMBX » Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:43 am

Why you say that powerups such as Lakitu's shoe and the Hammer Suit are broken?

I like them the way they are because they help me a lot (I'm an eternal noob at this game, really). Especially when fighting bosses.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby HeroLinik » Wed Jan 22, 2020 4:11 am

SDA - SMBX wrote:
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Why you say that powerups such as Lakitu's shoe and the Hammer Suit are broken?

I like them the way they are because they help me a lot (I'm an eternal noob at this game, really). Especially when fighting bosses.
The thing is with them, if the designer implements such powerups poorly then they can be easily used to effectively cheat the entire level or even the entire episode. The Lakitu's Shoe removes all semblence of difficulty from overworld levels because you can just fly over them. while the Hammer Suit can kill nearly any enemy NPC and can absolutely break certain levels open, especially enemy spam.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby SDA - SMBX » Wed Jan 22, 2020 8:46 am

The thing is with them, if the designer implements such powerups poorly then they can be easily used to effectively cheat the entire level or even the entire episode. The Lakitu's Shoe removes all semblence of difficulty from overworld levels because you can just fly over them. while the Hammer Suit can kill nearly any enemy NPC and can absolutely break certain levels open, especially enemy spam.
It's good for me that powerups like that are the way they are already. I always try a way to skip everything and beat episodes faster, since I dead hate challenges. They just ruin my day. :(
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Hammerless Penguin » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:53 pm

Smbx "Items" tier list.

S tier:
Lakitu shoe,Tanookie suit,billy gun,clown car,flamethrower
A tier:
Hammer suit,black yoshi,red podoboo shoe,toothy plant,kamikaze koopa
B tier:
Iceflower,raccoon leaf,redyoshi,cyanyoshi,blue yoshi,pink yoshi
C tier:
Mega mushroom,purple yoshi,yellow yoshi,green yoshi,shells,fire flower, Pow block
D tier:
goomba shoe,super mushroom
F tier:
Veggies,Ice bricks

Edit: I can’t believe I left out the two most important power ups in Mario history lol.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Cedur » Wed Jan 22, 2020 2:29 pm

I'd say billy gun and flamethrower are quickly stretched to their limits when the screen is crowded. Its fire rate is great but not that great.

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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby TheNewGuy » Wed Feb 12, 2020 6:39 am

Tanooki is way more versatile than the Hammer suit, which is only better at taking down bosses.
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Re: What would you say is the most broken powerup?

Postby Saltlord » Wed Feb 12, 2020 11:16 am

I also think that the Tanooki is the best powerup in the game. Especially when playing as Toad, because his double jump makes it easier to avoid bottomless pits.

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