Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

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Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Creasion » Thu Apr 30, 2020 2:22 pm

Do people still play version 1.3.1?
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Eri7 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:05 pm

Well people like PopYoshi still use it for their project (in his case, he cant run 2.0 and NSMBX lags for him) and since I help him out with his project, I am also using 1.3

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Cedur » Thu Apr 30, 2020 3:58 pm

It's called 1.3.0.1. And yeah, technical issues and old PCs aside, it's nowhere recommendable anymore. The thread was archived for good reasons.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Chanceux2 » Thu Apr 30, 2020 9:46 pm

I still play this but about to stop and move on the 2.0

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Creasion » Fri May 01, 2020 2:45 am

Is it worth switching to SMBX2, and if I were to make an episode for 1.3.01 would people play it?

Also can you transfer levels in 1.301 to SMBX2?
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Electriking » Fri May 01, 2020 3:10 am

Creasion wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:45 am
Is it worth switching to SMBX2, and if I were to make an episode for 1.3.01 would people play it?

Also can you transfer levels in 1.301 to SMBX2?
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Animebryan » Fri May 01, 2020 4:15 am

Members of RMN (https://rpgmaker.net) might still use 1.3, because 2.0 is still in Beta. However, its been quite a while since anyone hosted a SMBX collaboration event & SMBX seems kinda dead over there. The last few events I remember had poor amount of signups & only under a dozen levels.

However, games made in 1.3 are compatible with 2.0, so the only reason people would have to keep using it is hardware limitations or those who don't handle change very well.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Cedur » Fri May 01, 2020 4:35 am

Creasion wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 2:45 am
Is it worth switching to SMBX2, and if I were to make an episode for 1.3.01 would people play it?

Also can you transfer levels in 1.301 to SMBX2?

in short, if you make an episode with 1.3.0.1 (though I recommend not to bc PGE is just so much better to use), and if it looks cool, then yes, me and others will play it on X2.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Chanceux2 » Fri May 01, 2020 10:50 am

I think you would have to look into old episode because the newer ones are X2 and 38A 1.4.5

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Creasion » Fri May 01, 2020 3:54 pm

Hmm , I still havnt transfered to SMBX2 for no reason at all haha, I think I might be the only one that still seriously makes levels under 1.301 limitations.

I've heard about hardware difficulties but, is SMBX2 really that much to handle?
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Cedur » Fri May 01, 2020 4:37 pm

Creasion wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 3:54 pm
Hmm , I still havnt transfered to SMBX2 for no reason at all haha, I think I might be the only one that still seriously makes levels under 1.301 limitations.

I've heard about hardware difficulties but, is SMBX2 really that much to handle?

depends on your computers' condition and age. Some users have no problems, others unfortunately do. You just gotta try for yourself. (and don't worry about antivirus alerts, that's false positive and happens to basically everyone)
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Chanceux2 » Sat May 02, 2020 2:40 pm

I'm getting used to PGE editor and I'm only 10.

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Idunn » Sat May 02, 2020 3:57 pm

Chanceux2 wrote:
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I'm getting used to PGE editor and I'm only 10.
Cedur was talking about Computer age not human age.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Chanceux2 » Sat May 02, 2020 6:53 pm

Idunn wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 3:57 pm
Chanceux2 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:40 pm
I'm getting used to PGE editor and I'm only 10.
Cedur was talking about Computer age not human age.
Then Nevermind

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Fri May 01, 2020 4:15 am
Members of RMN (rpgmaker.net) might still use 1.3, because 2.0 is still in Beta. However, its been quite a while since anyone hosted a SMBX collaboration event & SMBX seems kinda dead over there. The last few events I remember had poor amount of signups & only under a dozen levels.

However, games made in 1.3 are compatible with 2.0, so the only reason people would have to keep using it is hardware limitations or those who don't handle change very well.
Did you mean: https://rpgmaker.net/
Becuase it just leads you here: rpgmaker.net

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Creasion » Sat May 02, 2020 10:36 pm

Chanceux2 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 8:00 pm
Idunn wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 3:57 pm
Chanceux2 wrote:
Sat May 02, 2020 2:40 pm
I'm getting used to PGE editor and I'm only 10.
Cedur was talking about Computer age not human age.
Then Nevermind

Animebryan wrote:
Fri May 01, 2020 4:15 am
Members of RMN (rpgmaker.net) might still use 1.3, because 2.0 is still in Beta. However, its been quite a while since anyone hosted a SMBX collaboration event & SMBX seems kinda dead over there. The last few events I remember had poor amount of signups & only under a dozen levels.

However, games made in 1.3 are compatible with 2.0, so the only reason people would have to keep using it is hardware limitations or those who don't handle change very well.
Did you mean: https://rpgmaker.net/
Becuase it just leads you here: rpgmaker.net
You seem rather mature for a 10 year old.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Cedur » Sun May 03, 2020 5:23 am

Chanceux2 wrote:Did you mean: https://rpgmaker.net/
Becuase it just leads you here: rpgmaker.net

obviously yes. Kinda odd that the shortened link without https doesn't work
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby cato » Sun May 03, 2020 9:25 am

No. It aged pretty well. 2.0 has a more polished and advanced editor and content that drive people to transfer to 2.0.

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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Ness-Wednesday » Sun May 03, 2020 11:18 am

Unfortunately, 1.3.1 is mostly now seen as an inferior version of smbx because it's mostly laggy and buggy. Not to mention, 1.3 is more tedious to use than the current Pge editor that is supported in 2.0. You can't even use any npcs (294-1000), blocks (639-2000), or bgos (191-1000) that aren't normally found in the editor.

This thread reminds me of the times I had to use the legacy editor until 2 years ago to test my levels. I never used it for editing because 2.0 b3 kept crashing on my older computer. Once I switched to Windows 10, I never touched the Legacy editor again.
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Animebryan » Sun May 03, 2020 12:34 pm

Ness-Wednesday wrote:
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Once I switched to Windows 10, I never touched the Legacy editor again.
And now, Microsoft receives constant data feedback from your computer now since Windows 10 is a spyware OS which falls into the NSA's narrative of collecting everyone's data. Not only that, but Windows 10 can delete files & programs off of your computer if it considers it 'pirated software' (whatever MS's definition of that is, I wonder), all without the user's permission. This is why I never upgraded past Windows 7. Best one they ever made before the NSA's BS!
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Re: Does anyone still use version 1.3.1

Postby Enjl » Sun May 03, 2020 4:12 pm

Animebryan wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 12:34 pm
Ness-Wednesday wrote:
Sun May 03, 2020 11:18 am
Once I switched to Windows 10, I never touched the Legacy editor again.
And now, Microsoft receives constant data feedback from your computer now since Windows 10 is a spyware OS which falls into the NSA's narrative of collecting everyone's data. Not only that, but Windows 10 can delete files & programs off of your computer if it considers it 'pirated software' (whatever MS's definition of that is, I wonder), all without the user's permission. This is why I never upgraded past Windows 7. Best one they ever made before the NSA's BS!
So, because you sound like a conspiracy theorist in this post, I looked into these statements and tried to find some sources backing them... unsuccessfully.

1) "Windows receives constant data feedback from your computer now"
- Windows has a cloud feature that allows you to resume your current Windows session on another device. This "Active History" feature stores data about your app usage, and can be disabled (scroll down to the "Update" section https://www.tomsguide.com/us/microsoft- ... 28834.html )
- Windows 10 has two tracking types. The "full" tracking that does the above, and the "basic" one that does the below. Both can be turned off.
- Most software has automatic tracking built in for purposes of tracking unexpected behaviour. Microsoft's operating systems are no different. Windows 7 also tracks things you do for various optimization features. See: https://www.techradar.com/news/computin ... es-1029906
- Whether you think that a file on your pc knowing what software you frequently use to start it more quickly is privacy infringement is up to you. However, I don't see what's evil about it. The files are on your machine, so other people could only access them if you were hacked, which can happen on any operating system due to your own carelessness. On Windows 7 it becomes ever more likely since it no longer receives security updates.
- Worth noting is Cortana. Cortana (which also can be disabled completely through the settings) is identical to a predictive keyboard on a smartphone. It includes a neural network that tracks your input patterns so that it can better predict things to your need. Does this mean Microsoft is reading your search history? No, only Cortana, local to your machine.

2) The NSA and Windows
- All I could find about the NSA and Windows is that the NSA reported about a security risk in the operating system in 2016 that has been fixed quickly afterwards.

3) Windows can delete files off your computer that it thinks is pirated software
- Yes and no. This is more correlation than causation. Let me explain:
- Windows has a preinstalled antivirus called Windows Defender. It's a pretty good antivirus, because it often stays out of your way and doesn't behave like a virus like some of its antivirus colleagues. Much like any other antivirus, Windows Defender is capable of quarantining or removing software it deems malicious. This comes down to detecting anomalies within a file's code that point to a security risk when running them. Just like with other antivirus, this can lead to false positives (see: SMBX2 and SMBX38A).
For more info: https://www.easeus.com/file-recovery/st ... sking.html

4) Windows 7 good
- I already mentioned the security flaws earlier
- Your options regarding tracking features haven't changed between Windows 7 and Windows 10
- Windows 10 won't be replaced by a newer OS
- Expect software to start abandoning support for deprecated operating systems like Windows 7

tl;dr: think of windows tracking like a game tracking your high score in each level, or tracking your performance to propose an adaptive difficulty adjustment, or your mail client asking about sending a crash report whenever something goes wrong
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