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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby ShadowStarX » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:39 pm

JulianSteve_18 wrote:
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Will the levels made in the invasion 3 Shadow Star be included?
No, they will not!
That iteration of The Invasion 3 had different goals compared to this one, and also a different set of tools to work with.
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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby P4VL0VSKEY » Fri Sep 25, 2020 3:26 pm

Holy Kookie! I'm really looking forward to play it!

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:15 pm

DisasterMaster wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 11:25 pm
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I just want to reiterate SSX's talking point about custom npcs and go further down with it. For the sake of filespace I don't actually think we plan on using any custom NPCs at all, maybe one or two levels will have some custom npcs assets at most and I don't even want to promise that. This may be subject to change, but since the goal of this is to be apart of basegame in future versions of SMBX2 then we want to make sure we don't end up bloating the download size.
You should have very little problem with bloat, at least comparatively to The Invasion 2. When you download SMBX2 right now, it comes with The Invasion 2 as a basegame episode which consists of 2258 files @ 13.1 MBs. Most of those files are .gifs with masks and the actual .lvl files themselves.
I’m not sure if you’ve discussed with the devs if your Invasion 3 would replace the current one, but if it is a replacement then it would have to be of comparable size to not be consider “bloated”. This would not be as hard as you may think…

As I mentioned above, I converted all the level files of The Invasion 2 to .lvlx and graphics to .png, which decreased the size to 1751 files @ 6.84 MBs. That’s a 507 file and 6.26 MB decrease to its size, just by those simple steps. You could further decrease that by changing the same custom tilesets used in multiple levels (such as warp 1, warp 2, warp 3, warp 4, warp 8, and warp 9) onto episode custom blocks 751-1000 so that one block could be used over multiple levels while only taking up 1 extra file slot. Depending on how many levels use the same custom blocks, that too could be substantial.

Theoretically, you could create an episode with more levels that would actually be smaller in size than the current basegame Invasion 2.
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(perhaps gravity if anything)
I'd be down with a "Low G Labyrinth" level. If anything, it could help people create that type of effect for their levels by letting them examine the Lua used to make it.
To go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby TLtimelord » Sat Sep 26, 2020 2:26 am

I'm just psyching myself out about the filesize of the episode that's all lol
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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Dragon0307 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 3:17 am

MECHDRAGON777 wrote:
Fri Sep 25, 2020 4:15 pm
To go even further on that, you can also use mostly base-game music and .spcs. I do not think custom NPCs would exactly "bloat" the file-size however.
Agreed with you there. Although SPCs are only for SNES music. Luckilly, SMBX2 supports OGG (better and smaller than MP3, and you can loop it) as well as other stuff like NSF (NES) and GYM (Genesis). All the compatible SMBX2 audio formats are here: https://wohlsoft.ru/pgewiki/SDL_Mixer_X
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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Kimjosh12 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 9:13 am

I wish to get super computer to download deez nuts, I Wish to create my own Video Games in future :) :) :)
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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby JulianSteve_18 » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Also as a suggestion, I think they should give an improvement to the graphics they use, for example in the level "Brick Block Massacre" you can see that the starman has the sprite of SMW and it would be good if it had the sprite of SMB1 since that level It is set on a SMB1 level, and also that the coin and brick effects had their corresponding sprites depending on the theme of the level.

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby DisasterMaster » Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:53 pm

ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 am
Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Idunn » Thu Oct 01, 2020 5:09 am

Looks pretty good so far, levels look well designed and don’t really overuse custom graphics for now or anything like that.


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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Wiimeiser » Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:32 pm

To round things out, how about an optional Star World with a night/space/abstract theme?
DisasterMaster wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:53 pm
ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 am
Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.
Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Murphmario » Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pm

Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
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https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1urWpFq ... #responses

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Really tempted to just make a general graphics thread for all of my graphics instead of just making individual threads for each of them.

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby ShadowStarX » Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 am

Murphmario wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pm
Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)
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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Jumper » Sat Oct 03, 2020 7:36 am

Wiimeiser wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:32 pm
To round things out, how about an optional Star World with a night/space/abstract theme?
DisasterMaster wrote:
Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:53 pm
ShadowStarX wrote:
Thu Sep 24, 2020 9:35 am
Not every single basegame SMBX2 feature will be featured (primarily those NPCs that are difficult to design around in a beginner-friendly way)
Which specific NPCs are difficult to design around? I'll see if I can make a rough-draft of a level featuring any that you mention.
Frightlight or whatever it's called might be one, I think. I'm not sure how it even works...
Frightlight functions much the same as a Boo, except when you look at it, it'll teleport to another location within the level after staring for a few seconds.
True to its name, it also has a light source attached to its head (useful when in dark levels).

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby Murphmario » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:01 pm

ShadowStarX wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 am
Murphmario wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pm
Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)
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Okay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9lop17eh16c8 ... s.zip?dl=0
Also, you can easily convert GIFs to PNGs via a tool included in PGE. It's under external tools.
Now taking graphics requests:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1urWpFq ... #responses

My graphics pack:
http://www.supermariobrosx.org/forums/v ... t=1960/url

Really tempted to just make a general graphics thread for all of my graphics instead of just making individual threads for each of them.

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Re: The Invasion 3

Postby ShadowStarX » Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:11 pm

Murphmario wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 4:01 pm
ShadowStarX wrote:
Sat Oct 03, 2020 2:30 am
Murphmario wrote:
Fri Oct 02, 2020 9:35 pm
Something to point out with the Retroville level; some of the graphics used in it aren't accurate to their original NES counterparts (as an example, the green parts of the tree semisolids had outlines in the original SMB1 but not here for some reason). Would anyone be against me uploading replacement graphics.
Honestly accurate NES graphics as PNGs would be great and appreciated.
(This is the level that is talked about)
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Okay, here they are. Feel free to use these for levels and whatnot that aren't related to TI3 as well.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/e9lop17eh16c8 ... s.zip?dl=0
Also, you can easily convert GIFs to PNGs via a tool included in PGE. It's under external tools.
I know that, but it can be tedious with recolors of vanilla graphics, as then the tool is not so useful.
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