M16: The Best of Both Worlds - MAFIA VICTORY

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby RudeGuy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:51 am

I agree with those who voted Bloodedge to be lynched.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sat Feb 14, 2015 8:59 am

Karl Marx wrote:Yeah I don't believe Zeldamaster12. Saying you're the double voter and that nobody countered that is a completely illogical assertion, that's like saying the sun is blue because I said it and nobody countered me.
I know what you're saying - allow me to explain.

We needed the Doublevoter to claim because he's the best candidate for a PUBLIC alliance leader. This means he is at risk for being killed, but we assume that risk because his role is the least important of the specials. Having someone like the Sheriff lead the alliance would be bad, because now the Mafia would know who the Sheriff is and can kill him. The Mafia killing the Doublevoter is better than the Mafia killing the Sheriff.

Now, onto counterclaiming: the reason why this strategy works is that no special would want to not speak up when somebody who isn't their role claims to be their role. If we would've received two Doublevoter claims, then we would've had the Sheriff inspect one of them to see if they were blue or not. If ZM wasn't the Doublevoter but claimed anyway, the real Doublevoter would've spoken up and counterclaimed because not doing so is really silly. We would then have the Sheriff inspect one of them, which would tell us which one is blue. If ZM was the Doublevoter but somebody counterclaimed as the Doublevoter who wasn't that role, then we'd have the Sheriff inspect one of them as well.

So, if somebody claims a role Night 1 (because nobody has died yet) and nobody counterclaims (assuming nobody was inactive), we can assume they are that role because nobody tried to impersonate them by counterclaiming and nobody spoke up because the claimer wasn't the role they said they were.

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Paper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:16 am

Sorry that I was out for a while. I actually SLEEP, unlike you guys. Anyways, I was going to go on a full scale rant when I saw this post:
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PaperPlayerX wrote:I know this is going against the popular opinion, but...
What if the REAL doublevoter is inactive and that's why he hasn't counterclaimed? WHAT IF THE ZELDANATI IS GETTING READY TO MURDER US ALL???

Just a provoking thought.
I personally found this to be suspicious, so PaperPlayerX
Ninja'd by 8bit. I'm sure he was either Vigi'd or he was the Miller.
But then you kindly changed the vote. Bloodedge is mince meat.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby BlimpFruit » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:18 am

Bloodedge
I kind of have this weird feeling that he's the SK.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Paper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 9:21 am

BlimpFruit wrote:Bloodedge
I kind of have this weird feeling that he's the SK.
Considering how he's acting, that'd make sense. I wouldn't be surprised if he turned up yellow.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Shadow Yoshi » Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:12 am

BlimpFruit wrote:Bloodedge
I kind of have this weird feeling that he's the SK.
Would you mind explaining?

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Paper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:04 am

Joey wrote:
BlimpFruit wrote:Bloodedge
I kind of have this weird feeling that he's the SK.
Would you mind explaining?
Ever heard of a gut feeling?
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Choco » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:16 am

PaperPlayerX nailed it right down. It's just because of the way he's acting, I guess.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby BlimpFruit » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:17 am

Joey wrote:
BlimpFruit wrote:Bloodedge
I kind of have this weird feeling that he's the SK.
Would you mind explaining?
Well, he's definitely acting very suspicious, but it just doesn't seem likely that he'd be acting this way if he was mafia (because they'd probably tell him to be quiet to reduce suspicion). He seems... "isolated", for lack of a better word. Like he doesn't have any allies in this game. I know that probably made no sense, but eh, when I said weird feeling, that's what I meant. So yeah, PPX pretty much hit the nail on the head
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Paper » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:19 am

How many votes for an insta? And how many votes does BloodEdge currently have on him?
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Choco » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:21 am

Unless I counted wrong, we have 11 on Bloodedge (10 if ZM is lying, but there's practically no way he is at this point). That should be enough for an insta, I think.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby TheLordKhon » Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:50 am

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Nanaya Jacob » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:01 pm

Well, i am going to die, i have no defence so yeah... i am just saying it was not the best of plans. This might as well be goodbye my friends, i always die on day one for my plans or suspicions. Last time i was trying to get a power alliance. Now i might as well give up now. I am a townie who does not know if i am a going to turn up red, yellow or just green. Goodbye, i personally think that one of the people in your alliance zm, is a mafia or yourself.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby RudeGuy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 12:54 pm

Bloodedge wrote:Goodbye, i personally think that one of the people in your alliance zm, is a mafia or yourself.
And how do you even know this? ZeldaMaster is already confirmed DoubleVoter. And if there was a mafia claiming a blue to zeldamaster, he'd know this, since there can't be 2 players having the same role, and can easily tell the sheriff inspect one of these 2 to get who the mafia player is.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Nanaya Jacob » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:01 pm

*sighs* this getting annoying, i said befire many pages before, inacive players never claim, people don't trust, people lie about roles with one of the following above, blue found out and has to be in allegiance with mafia. Now, may i be lynched off now? Because u just see myself as townie that has nothing to do except be used as a useless lynch for mafia to win. Like i barely even play mafia anymore...
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby RudeGuy » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:03 pm

Bloodedge wrote:inacive players never claim
...Everyone claimed to not be the doublevoter.
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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Mivixion » Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:37 pm

My vote on Bloodedge is no longer a safety.
It's a legit full-on vote.
EVERYONE ELSE claimed not doublevoter.

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - DAY 1

Postby Pseudo » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:04 pm

Well, believe it or not...

DAY 1 has ended!

It's an INSTA-LYNCH!

The townspeople gathered in the town square. Bloodedge, who had always been seen as shifty, was accused by the townspeople of being part of the mafia, which the townspeople believed to be responsible for last night's deaths. They hanged him from the noose in the center of town.
Bloodedge has died!

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - NIGHT 2

Postby Mivixion » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:09 pm

So he really was the SK (or the Millwright, but I think his behavior more-or-less confirms his guiltiness).

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Re: M16: The Best of Both Worlds - NIGHT 2

Postby glitch4 » Sat Feb 14, 2015 2:22 pm

Mivixion wrote:So he really was the SK (or the Millwright, but I think his behavior more-or-less confirms his guiltiness).
He said he's townperson, so he could be Millwright.


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