Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

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Which gimmick do you want to see for the Nova Level Contest 2?

Poll ended at Sun May 10, 2020 9:34 am

Musical Moods
4
17%
Quotes
4
17%
No Power-ups
8
35%
Final Level
5
22%
No Layers/Events
2
9%
 
Total votes: 23
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:28 pm

litchh wrote:There's bug in Beta 4 when if NPC with Layer2 attached to NPC from Layer1, which attached to another one NPC, then attached NPC with Layer2 will not move. Also some NPCs like bill blasters, tank fragments and even SML2 goombas don't attach layers anymore.

This could be used as a rule, if anything. I wonder if this problem will be taken into consideration for CCX1.
litchh wrote:Okay then what about disable events at all?

So you have to rely on scripting only? That's quite out of the question, I don't want to alienate people who aren't comfortable with scripting.
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby litchh » Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:54 pm

Cedur wrote:
Wed Mar 18, 2020 1:28 pm
So you have to rely on scripting only? That's quite out of the question, I don't want to alienate people who aren't comfortable with scripting.
Of course event imitations should be prohibited as well.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby MECHDRAGON777 » Wed Mar 18, 2020 3:35 pm

I am kind of against the no-layer and no-event gimmicks myself.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby FirestarPlays » Wed Mar 18, 2020 4:02 pm

I'm excited to participate as a level designer, gimmick 1a is most exciting for me
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 6:57 am

I am happy to see you guys excited for this contest, hopefully Cedur can decide what gimmick the contest should have since we are not getting that far with voting. I personally would have no issues if we go with gimmick 1b, 2 or 3.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:05 am

ok so far there are four viable options, right?
- Musical Moods
- Quotes
- No Powerups
- Final Level

just making sure before I set up the poll
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:29 am

Cedur wrote:
Sun Apr 26, 2020 7:05 am
ok so far there are four viable options, right?
- Musical Moods
- Quotes
- No Powerups
- Final Level

just making sure before I set up the poll
I guess, also litchh stated a no events vanilla gimmick so maybe you can add it to the list?

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Sun Apr 26, 2020 9:35 am

Poll has been set up and will run for two weeks.
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:08 am

Looking at the votes so far, it seems people either want a no power-ups contest or final level contest which for me, seems an ideal choice either way. I don't think I have seen a contest with such a gimmick before so that certainly will make it interesting.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Keroro04 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 am

I both voted for, and have a level completed for, the No Power Ups one.

Edit, make that two, and I won't give hints for the second one so I can upload it anonymously.
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:18 am

If you want to submit this level, then
a) do not post it until the contest is over
b) remove the hints in this post and don't give any hints
since judging is anonymous
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Keroro04 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 4:36 am

Ah, thank you for telling me.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:48 am

Keroro04 wrote:
Tue Apr 28, 2020 1:30 am
I both voted for, and have a level completed for, the No Power Ups one.

Edit, make that two, and I won't give hints for the second one so I can upload it anonymously.
The rules state you can only submit one level to the contest.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Keroro04 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 7:55 am

I just said I’ve made two, I’m not uploading the first cause of the hints. Sorry for not being specific.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Teemster2 » Tue Apr 28, 2020 9:39 pm

I voted for no power ups. Makes the game more difficult in my oppinion if done right.
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Sun May 10, 2020 5:57 am

I guess we will be having a no power-ups contest, Celeste style.
For the judging's criteria, since you guys are out of ideas, here are my suggestions:
Gameplay/Level Design = 40 Points (How well the level was designed which includes how fun it was to play, how well the gimmick was executed and how much variety there was in the level)
Aesthetics = 30 Points (How well the level was decorated and how much the graphics fit in (Maybe you can also include the quality of the graphics/aesthetics))
Creativity = 20 Points (How creative the level was with it's execution of gimmick, challenges and etc.)
Theme = 10 Points (How well did the level follow it's presented theme, it will be a bit difficult to judge this in a no-power ups contest but as I said, its just a suggestion)
This should equal to 100 Points in total.
Also since judging is supposed to be anonymous, we can create a channel in the novaverse server for the contest and just not give access to the judges? (It will be kinda tricky with Cedur considering he is the owner so maybe he can mute the channel as well?)
Also for HUB/World Map maker, I would suggest asking 8luestorm or Mechadragon777 for help.
And for the extra judge, what are you going to do about that?

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Sun May 10, 2020 6:04 am

Eri7 wrote:Also since judging is supposed to be anonymous, we can create a channel in the novaverse server for the contest and just not give access to the judges? (It will be kinda tricky with Cedur considering he is the owner so maybe he can mute the channel as well?)

No, I'd suggest we just do it the same as in CCX1, where ShadowStar officially hosts and is also a judge, so I'd also have someone else (well, you?) to collect and distribute the levels.

Also since "following the criteria" is indeed trivial for the no powerup theme, I'd suggest to put these points to "Gameplay" and go with 50-30-20.
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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Eri7 » Sun May 10, 2020 6:07 am

Cedur wrote:
Sun May 10, 2020 6:04 am
Eri7 wrote:Also since judging is supposed to be anonymous, we can create a channel in the novaverse server for the contest and just not give access to the judges? (It will be kinda tricky with Cedur considering he is the owner so maybe he can mute the channel as well?)

No, I'd suggest we just do it the same as in CCX1, where ShadowStar officially hosts and is also a judge, so I'd also have someone else (well, you?) to collect and distribute the levels.

Also since "following the criteria" is indeed trivial for the no powerup theme, I'd suggest to put these points to "Gameplay" and go with 50-30-20.
I was thinking of allowing people to discuss their levels and such but I guess there is no issue in going your way. I could collect and distribute them but I would like to enter the contest as well.

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Re: Nova Level Contest 2 (Preview / Planning Phase / WIP)

Postby Cedur » Sun May 10, 2020 6:14 am

Yeah there would be no problem with you entering.

Also if anybody's interested in being a 4th judge, hit me up!
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