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Re: Science communication

Postby cato » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:41 pm

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I did not say that 9/11 was not real. I said 9/11 was a military strategy called a "false flag operation." The North American government was involved in this false flag operation. I said that the North American government killed, as a sacrifice, its own people to have an excuse to go to war with the Middle East. I said that the American government crashed two planes into the New York twin towers. I said that the North American government prepared the attack in advance and that it agreed with a terrorist organization called Al Qaeda so that this organization claimed responsibility for the attack. It later emerged that the two twin towers were shot down with explosives and not the effect of an aircraft fire.
So, the government purposely killed its own people for a publicity stunt to fight against countries in the middle east?
Please don't say any of this. 9/11 is so significant that it instilled fear and memories to its native Americans. If it was faked, then why the airport security, later on, is much more strictly improved?

Also, "North American Government"? Really? Does that mean the government of the United States of America? Or governments in the North America? Because it makes me think that you supported slavery and the South American government during the American Civil War. The United States of America is united after the civil war, and there is no reason for you to call the government as The Nouth American Government, unless you are from the south.

Also, what are you going to say? June 4th Tiananmen massacre is staged?

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Re: Science communication

Postby idruinn » Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:48 pm

Yes, it makes sense. I understood you before, I just wanted to explain it a bit to show you what I meant. I know that a number by itself doesn't mean anything. But how do you explain that aspect of reality then if we cannot assing any meaning? How do we get then the hidden information inside the core of the number?
If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration.

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the Universe.

What we now want is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the Earth, and the elimination of egoism and pride which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife. Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment.

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Re: Science communication

Postby Aero » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:04 pm

Maybe this isn't an aspect of reality and there isn't hidden information? There's no need to say numbers have a special meaning and try to invent a narrative about reality around it. I could just as easily say the number 1 means the exact opposite of everything you said, and make completely different connections, but it wouldn't be any more or less accurate to reality than your description about unity. It would just lead to an argument that goes nowhere. With science we can independently verify experimental results, and with mathematics - not numerology - we can show our work and get the same answers.

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Re: Science communication

Postby idruinn » Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:16 pm

I understand that you are surprised by what I say, because if you have not assumed that governments work for banks and not for the people, then it is difficult to understand why multimillion-dollar families such as the Rockefellers, the Rothschilds, or the Morgan, to name a few examples, can care more about the economy than the human and non-human lives of planet Earth.

They, the most economically powerful banking families, create war, hunger, poverty, organ trafficking, humans, animals and drugs, social fashions, lifestyles, forms of social behavior, global disasters, etc. They form secret societies that are located at the zenith of Freemasonry. Their pleasures are having resources, killing people for fun and work, drinking the blood of terrified children (it would be the adenochrome, blood mixed with adrenaline), they like pedophilia, most of them are misogens, they are very classy, ​​they think they are superior to the rest of humanity, etc.

Anyway, they are monsters. I have had the misfortune to personally meet some of them. They are mentally ill, they are like psychopaths, they do not empathize with anyone other than their own group of sociopaths. Many are men, there are also women, but less.

Regarding your question about why they increased security at airports, it was basically to keep the population in a constant state of alarm, instilling terror in a subliminal way.

To understand it you have to think it like this: if we increase security it is because we want to make the population believe that there is a possible threat that can happen unexpectedly and this is subconsciously grasped by your subconscious mind. The subconscious mind does not make the rational discourse that the conscious mind does. The subconscious mind is highly influential at the subliminal level. And these people work at the subliminal level, that is why they can go unnoticed by the general public because the general public is unaware that they exist. Furthermore, they have already been in charge of creating subliminal propaganda to discredit these issues. They often use the argument that only a paranoid person might be able to think something like that. Have you seen how easy it is for them to go unnoticed on this planet? They have made people believe they don't exist. They are very smart.

When I said North American government, I was referring to the US government, the secret government, the FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency).

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With science we can independently verify experimental results, and with mathematics - not numerology - we can show our work and get the same answers.
Yes, you are right. That is true. But where is the quantum aspect of reality? Why do the numbers exist then? Can they be associated with a color or a musical note? Why can't they have a clear concept that we can all understand?

I ask you these questions in case you have any answers. I know these are not scientific questions but if you want to try, I read you.
If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration.

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the Universe.

What we now want is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the Earth, and the elimination of egoism and pride which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife. Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment.

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Re: Science communication

Postby Aero » Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:01 pm

idruinn wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:30 pm
Aero wrote:
Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:04 pm
With science we can independently verify experimental results, and with mathematics - not numerology - we can show our work and get the same answers.
Yes, you are right. That is true. But where is the quantum aspect of reality? Why do the numbers exist then? Can they be associated with a color or a musical note? Why can't they have a clear concept that we can all understand?

I ask you these questions in case you have any answers. I know these are not scientific questions but if you want to try, I read you.
The quantum aspect of reality can be described by science. I'm sure you've heard of quantum physics. It happens to be a subject that often gets used to push new age mysticism because of misunderstandings of the actual science. For the question on why numbers exist, there's a lot of answers that can be given but the one I would give is that humans made them up to organize information. For example if you need to keep track of the number of cattle grazing in a field people started counting and inventing number systems. Color and musical notes can be associated with numbers. All of the colors on screen are represented by numbers. For example RGB(255,0,0) would mean red because the R is at the maximum for the red value and 0 for the green and blue values. There isn't anything special about the numbers used other than that they're convenient for computers to use to represent colors. Musical instruments use measurements to produce notes and so on. Numbers are used as a description and representation, they don't actually produce color and music. There's a lot of philosophical history about if math is created or discovered. Also you seem to be getting at what is called "Qualia" which is the philosophy of subjective experience.

I'd encourage you to take a look at this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qualia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosoph ... jor_themes

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Re: Science communication

Postby idruinn » Wed Jul 22, 2020 4:38 am

Wow, thanks for your explanation, Aero. This was impressive. You have helped me a lot to understand some points about what we are talking about. I have read all the links that you have shown. They are very interesting. Thank you for taking my questions seriously and being respectful to me. I am going to watch the video.

I wish you are very well. I was delighted to learn a little more about this matter. I wish you a good day. My best wishes for you. A hug brother.
If you wish to understand the Universe think of energy, frequency and vibration.

If you only knew the magnificence of the 3, 6 and 9, then you would have a key to the Universe.

What we now want is closer contact and better understanding between individuals and communities all over the Earth, and the elimination of egoism and pride which is always prone to plunge the world into primeval barbarism and strife. Peace can only come as a natural consequence of universal enlightenment.

Nikola Tesla


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