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The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:18 pm
by Aristo
So, what's up with Peach getting kidnapped countless times again when games like Super Princess Peach and Super Mario 3D World (and of course the Smash Bros series) have shown that she is clearly able to defend herself against Bowser?

I'm calling for more equality in Mario games. There's enough male characters by now that are just as "fragile" as Peach. Why don't they get kidnapped more often? What about Luigi? He can barely hold up against a boo without completely freaking out.

I'm convinced that sexism is not what Mario is intended to be about, therefore there need to be more male characters getting kidnapped, as well as more female playable characters.

Discuss.

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:22 pm
by Aero
Thanks for doing your part to smash sexism, Marina. Sexism doesn't take a holiday so we need to keep calling it out.

Re: The 'Toad is a Weakling' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:29 pm
by Circle Guy
Maybe Peach relies on the toads, as they have been seen being very weak against bowser.
(even though she can defend herself lol)

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 3:36 pm
by BTB
That's another issue with the Mario games. It's been stated over and over that Toads are asexual, and it just so happens all of them are weaklings who do nothing but get captured by Bowser. Not only do the Mario games portray women as weak, but asexuals as well.

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:47 pm
by Circle Guy
BTB wrote:That's another issue with the Mario games. It's been stated over and over that Toads are asexual, and it just so happens all of them are weaklings who do nothing but get captured by Bowser. Not only do the Mario games portray women as weak, but asexuals as well.
and they trick little kids into thinking course design is easy
START A PETITION

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 4:55 pm
by Artemis008
Peach probably has Stockholm syndrome. /s

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:03 pm
by RudeGuy
I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 6:32 pm
by CynicHost

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 7:03 pm
by lighthouse64
Merlin wrote:Made a petition.
Why the zipcode though? I can't go around posting my address online!

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2016 8:18 pm
by SnifitGuy
To be fair, a good amount of modern Mario titles portray Peach as more than just the typical "damsel in distress": she helped stop Bowser's plot in SM3DW, she's a playable character in Smash (and is no weak character; I've kicked ass with her), and a lot of the spinoffs from the main Mario games (SMRPG, Super Paper Mario, Mario and Luigi Titles) all portray her as more complicated and more independent than that.

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 2:06 am
by Egg
YEAH FEMALE POWER

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:49 am
by Magician
Okay I'll bite, but just for a sec. I don't know if this is ever going to be a serious thread. My body says no but the nostradamus in the centre of my hippo campus says no. Anyway ignore me if it isn't. I'll be short. Peach isn't really fragile, is she? I'm not sure that trope is ongoing anymore, but even so, Mario games fall prey to repetition. The game's surrounding context makes it maybe forgivable. It's still worth talking about outside of the "this game is sexist because it has X thing in it" argument, but I just don't buy that part. I'm still open to future changes though. Wouldn't bother me at all to see a GOOD Super Princess Peach. Peach and Daisy co-op could be fun too.

And Luigi? Pff. He may SEEM a rather dainty character but he faced down King Boo and even worse rebuffs by DAAAAAISY Oh shit. Sorry. They're making me do this. I'm falling into oblivion. The red pill. I can't stop it. They're making me swallow. Oh LAWRDY it's HAPPENING. Tell my children I

I don't want to talk about this at all either! Yeah let's shit up the thread guys!

BTB Not a SINGLE ONE OF THE MARIO CHARACTERS IS SEXUAL.
I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 8:57 am
by SnifitGuy
Magician wrote: I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.
Image

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:00 am
by Circle Guy
But guys, the toads are shown as weak!!!! We nead toad equality!!!!

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 9:17 am
by Magician
SnifitGuy wrote:
Magician wrote: I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.
Spoiler: show
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Is that the one about pictures of goats but it's not ACTUALLY goats

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 10:29 am
by SnifitGuy
Magician wrote:
SnifitGuy wrote:
Magician wrote: I fucking dare you to find me ONE picture on the internet of ANY of the Mario characters having sex.
Spoiler: show
Image
Is that the one about pictures of goats but it's not ACTUALLY goats
I think it's safe to assume you know what I'm talking about. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:13 am
by onpon4
Personally, I'm more concerned about the blatant turtlism presented in all the Mario games by portraying turtles as bad guys. I mean, come on, Nintendo! It's 2016! You need to give equal representation for every possible demographic in every group, occupation, and situation, or it's perpetuating bigotry!

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:15 am
by Circle Guy
onpon4 wrote:Personally, I'm more concerned about the blatant turtlism presented in all the Mario games by portraying turtles as bad guys. I mean, come on, Nintendo! It's 2016! You need to give equal representation for every possible demographic in every group, occupation, and situation, or it's perpetuating bigotry!
They're saying mushroom people are weak, girls are defenseless, and that turtles are evil???? NINTENDO WHYYYYYYYY

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 11:35 am
by FanofSMBX
RudeGuy07 wrote:I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?
You forgot about Wendy Koopa and Pom Pom?

Re: The 'Damsel in Distress' Discourse

Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2016 12:08 pm
by RudeGuy
FanofSMBX wrote:
RudeGuy07 wrote:I agree about having more female characters. Why are all the enemies male?
You forgot about Wendy Koopa and Pom Pom?
They're the only 2 female enemies. Literally every other enemy, in the official games, are male.